Webinar – SEND reform: What it means for disabled children with complex needs

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[Jack] Good morning

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and a very warm welcome to Sense’s

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information webinar

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on the SEND reforms in England.

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Hi, my name is Jack.

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I’m Chief

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Social Change Officer here at Sense,

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and there’s a team of us

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with you this morning

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for the next 30 minutes.

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And we hope you will find this

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a really useful session.

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We know that navigating

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all of this is really tough

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and really stressful for many.

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So we’re here to support you and walk

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you through everything today.

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I’ll be passing to Harriet

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and Amelia shortly,

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but first, a few housekeeping bits.

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So we are recording today

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so we can reuse this at a later date.

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Just so you are aware,

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we have a BSL interpreter with us.

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Richard.

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we get asked over the coming days.

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So you’ll have everything in one place.

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So to talk through what will happen today.

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So, who are we?

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We are Sense.

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And we are a leading disability

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charity here to break down barriers

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alongside disabled people

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with complex needs,

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and we

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support

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thousands of disabled people

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with complex needs across the country

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through our combination of services

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our colleges,

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our community and children’s services.

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Adam, could you move us on

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to the next slide, please?

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And we can just take a look at

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what’s coming up.

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So in terms of what we’re doing here

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at Sense,

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we’ll talk you through

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everything that you need to know.

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We’ll give you an overview of the SEND reforms

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and the timetable.

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We’ll talk you through our response

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to the SEND reforms.

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We’ll look at,

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any questions

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that we’ve been asked in advance of today

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so the most,

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pressing questions.

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We’ll give you

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our take on some of those

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and then also what you can do

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and how you can have your say

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to influence the change.

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Thanks, Adam.

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Moving us forward then.

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So in terms of here at Sense,

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there’s quite a lot

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that we are doing.

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So one of our key priorities

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alongside supporting those, within Sense

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is influencing.

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So this means power, policy,

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practice and culture change.

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And we focus on the issues

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that disabled people

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with complex needs

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and their families

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tell us are most important.

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And at the moment

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we are focusing on education,

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social care and welfare.

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Today, of course,

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we’re here to talk about SEND.

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You will know that in February,

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the government launched its white paper

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setting out the SEND reforms in England.

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And I’m sure,

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as you would expect,

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we’ve been hearing a lot

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about how worried parents and carers are.

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And so we wanted to hold this session today

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to share the most up to date

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information on these reforms,

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what we know and how you can take action.

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So I’m going to pass now to Harriet

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who’s going to take you through

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an overview of what

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the government are proposing

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and what’s in those SEND reforms.

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So we hope you find it useful.

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Harriet, over to you.

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[Harriet] Thanks, Jack.

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Morning, everyone.

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So as Jack said we’ll talk through the top lines of the reforms.

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We’re going to focus on

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what we think matters

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most to disabled

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children with complex needs

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as that’s what we’re here for today.

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But first,

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just want to start by saying

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it’s really important

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that when you’re listening to this,

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that you know, that these are not final.

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Nothing is final here. It’s a consultation.

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So some of these things will still change.

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And there is room for all of us

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to influence these changes.

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And we know that a lot of this

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can be really overwhelming.

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Some of it’s quite complicated.

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There are some new acronyms,

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so do ask questions as we go in the chat.

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Can we get the next slide please Adam.

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So this is a really

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large package of reforms.

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And I don’t think I need to tell

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anybody on the chat

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that the current SEND system

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has been failing for a long, long time.

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And this has been recognised by parties

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across the political spectrum.

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We’ve got local authorities

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across the country

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that can’t meet rising demand.

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Thousands of children

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just not getting the right support

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they should be at school,

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and many parents are facing

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daily battles to get

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the support they deserve.

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These reforms are a reflection of government

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taking action on that.

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They have really tailored it

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towards this core vision that you can see

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on the slides,

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where they want every child

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to get the support

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they need as early as possible.

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I think you probably can all agree

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that a really quite ambitious challenge.

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There is going to be a lot of work

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to do to get there.

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The three core problems

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I’ve identified

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within these reforms,

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that they’re looking to,

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to solve with the proposals.

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So the first is that

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the system is just not working consistently,

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and too many people

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are having to fight to get support.

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It’s very adversarial.

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So the proposal here is to move towards

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a much more inclusive system

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across the board, especially in mainstream.

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And there are three new layers of support.

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That they are proposing that

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we’ll talk through in a minute.

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Secondly, many,

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many children are just not getting

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the specialist support that they need.

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Many people are on waiting lists,

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and this is really delaying

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and reducing outcomes for children.

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So a big proposal here is around

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bringing experts

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closer to mainstream

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through a £1.8 billion investment in experts,

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that mainstream schools can access.

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So again, we’ll talk through that

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a bit more in a minute.

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And thirdly, there is a really rising number

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of young children

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that are just not able to access school

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at all.

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So nearly

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a third of young people with SEND

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not in education or training.

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And this is a significant issue

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at the heart of these reforms.

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They are looking to solve.

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And the proposal here is around

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setting up a much more inclusive

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and equitable experience

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within schools and colleges.

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So can I move on to the next slide, please Adam?

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So here is the three layers of support

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that I mentioned.

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And you’ll see that,

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there’s lots of new words.

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And it’s a bit

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it’s very different to the current

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set up

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based on the core idea as well,

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that it will be a lot less binary

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then where we are at the minute,

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where you either have an EHCP

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or you don’t.

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This is going to be a lot more fluid,

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and we’ll talk through the differences

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now in the layers.

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But it’s important to say that every child

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who has identified SEND

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needs will fall

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within these layers somewhere,

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and also that it’s not a ladder,

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so you don’t have to progress up the layers.

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You should be put

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in the right layer for you at assessment.

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So the Targeted layer,

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this is the layer of children

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who need,

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some additional support,

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such as group work

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or personalised materials.

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Largely their needs would probably be met

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in mainstream

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and the child would have

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an Individual Support Plan.

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So this is a new word.

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The Individual Support Plan.

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And we’ll talk through that again

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in a minute.

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And the idea with

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this is bringing earlier

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support to children that have those needs

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that can be met in mainstream,

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with a bit of extra support.

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And then as we move, it’s up the layers,

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but in this diagram it goes down,

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the Targeted Plus support is for children

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that require

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some specialist support within school

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from health and social care.

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So this could be from occupational therapy,

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speech and language for example,

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for this layer, the proposal

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is really about bringing experts

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closer to mainstream

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for them to access

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so that they can bring the support

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much easier to these children

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and have a much smoother process

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within, schools.

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So, this is where

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the £1.8 billion

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funding for experts, largely,

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speaks to.

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And then lastly,

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we have the Specialist layer.

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And this is the layer for children

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who have more complex needs

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where these needs need

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many professionals

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to be involved with their support.

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And their needs

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can be met in mainstream or a special setting.

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So for this layer,

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we’ll go into more detail now on the next slide.

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But the key words

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that come up in

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these proposals are called

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specialist provision packages (SPP).

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So in the Specialist layer

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the big change here is that

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there’s going to be seven

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packages of support.

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That will be national packages

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for children with the most complex needs.

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This is the current proposal.

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It might change.

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But the idea is that these packages

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will be designed by a

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national panel of experts.

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They’re going to be needs led,

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not diagnosis led.

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And children can receive support

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for multiple packages

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depending on their needs.

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What’s really important in this layer

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is that these children who, are assessed to

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need specialist

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provision package

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will also have an EHCP still.

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So an Education, Health and Care Plan,

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which means a support to legal entitlement

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with accountability on health

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and care will stay as well.

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And families will have access

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to legal address in the SEND tribunal.

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So you can see the six key points here

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around,

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the specialist provision packages.

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And the idea is that

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these can be delivered

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in a range of settings

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that meet the child’s needs.

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So mainstream,

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special schools,

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spaces or alternative provision, for example.

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And local authorities will provide families with

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a list of settings

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that they can deliver the package

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from and that their child can,

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some recommendations.

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But also it’s really important

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that families can then request an alternative setting

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And there is choice built into this proposed

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option.

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Next slide please Adam.

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Okay.

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So that, what we’ve talked about

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there is the structure

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of how support will be organised

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that the government

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is suggesting across the country.

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In England,

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this is how the government are proposing,

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plans will be recorded

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and how communication will work

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on a daily basis around a child’s needs.

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So they’re called Individual Support Plans.

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Every child in the country

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should have one with identify SEND needs.

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So at any of those layers.

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In theory,

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this means that teachers and parents

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will be able to access the record.

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It should be more transparent to you

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because they’ll be that real

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agility in the record, in the plan.

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But,

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so we’ll talk a bit more

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in a minute about things

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that we would like to see

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with these plans.

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But we think from what we know at the moment

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schools will have a legal duty

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to produce them.

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They’ll be reviewed annually

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at key transition points.

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And the route to redress for

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these will be through

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school complaints procedure.

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Next slide please. Adam.

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Okay.

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This is my final slide before I hand over.

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But I think a key question

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that a lot of people have been asking us.

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And of course it’s been in the media

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a lot is around

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when does all of this happen?

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There’s a lot being proposed here.

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It feels quite daunting,

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and confusing,

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especially for people

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that have an EHCP at the moment.

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But the key thing to note is

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none of this is happening overnight.

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Its this real, quite a long

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timeline in place here, so,

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you’ll see that

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for children in year three and above,

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they will retain their existing EHCP

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into at least the age of 16.

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And children

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now who in year

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two or below will be reassessed

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at their transition

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point between year six and seven

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when they go into secondary school.

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And a key thing for special schools to know

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is that

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if a child has a place in September 2029

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they will be able to stay in that school

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until they complete their education.

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So we think that’s really reassuring

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and hopefully helpful to know.

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And importantly

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so this is a consultation

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we can all have our say.

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It closes on the 18th of May.

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So there’s still some time left here.

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But it is approaching.

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After this.

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The final plan will be produced

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by government

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at some point later in the year.

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That will really layout

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their final recommendations,

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but it will still have

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to go through Parliament.

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So there’s a really big moment there

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where we’d love to work with you all

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to make sure the MPs know

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the key issues with, the final plans.

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And we’re really making

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this the best package of reforms

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it can be for children

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and families across the UK.

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Ok, I’m going to hand over to Amelia now.

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Next slide please Adam.

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[Amelia] Hi everyone.

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So I’m now going to talk a bit about what

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we’ve been doing at Sense.

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I’m going to be talking about,

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our key asks that we want to see change

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as a result of the reforms.

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Based on what

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we’ve been hearing from parents,

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in the lead up to the reforms, and I’ll.

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yes, I’ll run through what

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we’ve heard from parents so far.

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During, our work in the past few weeks.

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Next slide please Adam.

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So through listening to parent carers

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of disabled children with complex needs.

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These are our key asks going into the reforms.

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So the first one is around

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the legal right to support.

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So we really believe that the legal right

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to support for all disabled

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children with complex

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needs must be protected at all costs.

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Secondly, we want greater accountability

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to hold local authorities,

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education and health and social care bodies

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all to the same standards

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with clear and effective routes for redress.

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If these standards aren’t met.

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And finally,

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we want a clear long term

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workforce strategy

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for everyone supporting

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disabled children with complex

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needs in education

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and we’ve been pushing these

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key asks in the lead up to reforms.

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And now through the consultation period,

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through meeting with ministers and MPs,

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sitting on the Department for Education’s

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Complex Needs Advisory group

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and also through our work with the media.

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Next slide please.

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So we put lived experience

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at the heart

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of all of our influencing work.

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Natalie is a parent carer

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of a disabled child with complex needs.

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And we’ve got a video of her now,

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of her here now,

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now to explain why this is important.

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I think it’s very easy for our decision makers

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and our MPs to go to Parliament

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and make decisions that they have no,

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they could never fathom

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what a day in the life of a SEND child

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looks like or SEND family looks like.

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So if you’re making a decision on something

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that you aren‘t A) exposed to

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or B) informed about,

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then more than likely

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that decision

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is not going to look like the best outcome

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for those that are deeply affected.

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So tell your story.

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We are a community and we are all together,

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and I think the solution comes from us

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not only sharing, but coming together

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to challenge.

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It’s important that they not only listen,

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but they act in the interests of those that,

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are living in a polar opposite world.

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So Natalie has been, doing some work

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with us, around the SEND reforms.

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And we’re really grateful for,

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for her support on this.

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So we want to ensure that our response

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to the SEND reforms

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has the views of families of disabled

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children with complex needs.

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At the very heart of it.

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So we’ve been listening to parents carers through

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interviews, consultation events and surveys.

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And these

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here are the key things

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that parents have been telling us so far.

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So firstly,

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most parents have faced challenges

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getting the right school for their child.

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Many parents really don’t feel confident

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that the new tier system

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outlined by Harriet,

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would meet their child’s needs.

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Retaining the legal right

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to support and provisions

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through Education, Health and Care Plans

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was really important to parents.

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Many parents felt the reforms

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did not have a good understanding

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of complex needs,

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and that the specialist provision packages

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are too general to meet

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the needs of disabled

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children with complex needs.

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Parents felt

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the reforms needed to do

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a lot more to address

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and improve specialist support

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for disabled children with complex needs,

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and this included better integration

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between health

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and social care

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and more specialist teachers.

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Next slide please.

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So this is what we think,

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as a response to the reforms,

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we’ve spent a lot of time

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going through the proposals,

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and trying to understand

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how they would affect

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disabled children with complex needs.

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So generally,

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we really welcome

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the increased universal support

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and guaranteed legal support

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to this comes

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through the Individual Support Plans.

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As outlined by Harriet.

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The fact that every

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single child with SEND

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will be able to access that individual plan.

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Is really welcomed.

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And we also welcome the investment

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in specialist expertise.

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So government

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is introducing

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a new scheme called Expert At Hand.

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And we are,

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they are,investing in the specialist

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workforce through that scheme.

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However,

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there are quite a few things

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that we are still concerned about.

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Although the reforms, the document is very,

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very long,

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there is still a lack of clarity

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and detail on implementation

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and how these reforms

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will be delivered in practice.

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There is a lack of a definition of what

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what,

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the government thinks complex needs is.

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And this makes the thresholds for specialist

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provision packages really unclear.

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There is a lack of detail on accountability

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for health and social care providers.

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And how they will be held to account

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to deliver the support

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that they should be delivering.

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We also have doubts about

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the capacity and funding.

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And although we welcome

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the significant investment

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that the government have put into this,

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we still don’t know

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if it’s going to be enough to really,

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give disabled children

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all the support that they need.

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And finally,

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we do have concerns around the roots

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to legal challenge

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for Individual Support Plans.

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Because this will be done

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through the schools complaints procedure.

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We do have real concerns about,

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how kind of transparent and, effective

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that process will be for parents.

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Next slide please.

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So, we’re now going to move on

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to some pre-submitted questions.

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So thank you to everyone

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who submitted a question in advance.

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Of this webinar.

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And as Jack mentioned at the start,

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if you’ve got any questions

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that are coming up as you’re

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listening to this,

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please enter them into the Q&A function.

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Or you can, send us an email after this

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with your questions

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and we will make sure to answer them

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following the webinar.

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And next slide please.

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So the first question that we received was

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how will the reforms ensure

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that we’ve got the right

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workforce to support

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disabled children with complex needs?

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So as mentioned,

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the government has invested

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£1.8 billion in Experts At Hand

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it’s scheme to invest in professionals such as speech

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language therapist

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and educational psychologists.

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And this will be available

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to disabled children on the Targeted Plus

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layer of support.

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But it could also go towards

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professionals such as specialist

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teachers

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like multisensory empowerment teachers.

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We’re waiting on more information

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from government on

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how they intend to spend this money.

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But we do have some concerns around

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whether the funding will be enough.

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And since we’re calling on the government

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to commit to a workforce strategy

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to better understand

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what support is needed and where,

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and to make sure that all disabled

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children can get the support that they need,

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no matter what tier they’re in or what

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school setting they’re in.

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The second question we received was,

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how will the reforms

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better help schools support

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disabled children with complex needs,

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and as well as support from Experts At Hand

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the government

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has also introduced

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these new specialist provision packages.

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As we outlined a few minutes ago,

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and these aim to direct disabled

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children with complex

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needs to the right package of support.

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And again,

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as we highlighted

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previously through these packages,

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a child would receive an Education helth and Care Plan.

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And at Sense

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we do have concerns around these packages

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including how they’re grouped

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and how they will be delivered in practice.

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Government has also not outlined

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a definition of complex needs,

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which really raises questions

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about who would actually be able

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to access the support.

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We hope to work government

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on shaping these plans

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to make sure that all disabled

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children with complex needs

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can get the support that they need.

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Government has also announced other measures

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to support disabled children

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with complex needs

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such as a fast track

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to assessment

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for specialist support

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for disabled children with complex

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needs under the age of five.

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And that is something

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that we really welcome.

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And the final question is

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what do the reforms say about transitions?

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Now, within the reforms,

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there is less

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focus on transitions than we had hoped for.

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Government does outline, though,

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that they will look to embed

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best practice in transition

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planning across all schools and colleges,

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and strengthen the focus on supporting

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young people

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with special educational needs

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to prepare for adult life.

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They will also ensure

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that young people with an Education

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Health Care Plan continue

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to receive support up until 25.

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And they will increase support

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to enable young people

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with special educational

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needs to access things like,

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supported internships and apprenticeships.

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So going forward on this, will be working

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with government over the next few months

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to ensure

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that then they are working with bodies

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across, adult social care,

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children’s social care and health

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to just make sure

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that these challenges around

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transitions are really addressed.

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In these reforms going forward.

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So that’s everything from me.

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But, thank you very much.

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[Jack] Thank you. Amelia.

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Thank you. Harriet.

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There’s no further questions in the Q&A.

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There’s still time.

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If anybody would like to add anything in

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and we can answer those for you right now.

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While we wait for any further questions

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to come in.

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There’s a few things

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we’re doing to support you

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to get your views across to government

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on the next slide, Adam, if you can, please.

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We’ve built, a handy consultation tool

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and you can access this,

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by just going to our website

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or using your phone

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to scan the link

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that you can see on the slide.

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And this tool takes around 15 minutes

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and it guides you through,

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a really helpful way

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to, to put your views across.

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And we’ve helped,

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about 130 people

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so far to respond to the consultation,

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but we’d really like to increase that number

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before the deadline.

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So we’ll, we’ll leave that on screen

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just for a couple of minutes,

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and we can leave that up at the end as well

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for you to access.

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As I say, you can go through to the

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website to see that. Also.

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And the other way of, of having your voice heard is,

0:23:51.640,0:23:54.160
going directly to the, the government’s,

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website as well.

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So on the next slide,

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please, Adam, is information regarding that

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to the deadline, as you said,

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is the 18th of May.

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Also, may be helpful for you.

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The, Department for education are running

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online and in person

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events via

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the Council for Disabled Children.

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So there’s a link,

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you can go to

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or serch the Council for Disabled Children

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you’ll see all the information there.

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So we recommend,

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looking at those as well

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before the deadline arrives.

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And then the final slide from us,

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and I believe there might be a question

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coming in, there is,

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which is great. Thank you.

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Thank you. Rebecca.

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I’ll come to that in second.

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The final slide, from us is

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we’d love you to stay in touch.

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We send regular emails of updates of what

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we hear and what we’re doing.

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And case studies and

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stories and all those kind of things.

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And you can get that by going to our website

0:24:52.000,0:24:55.720
or scanning that QR code on screen.

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If you’d like to share your story,

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and we work with

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a huge amount of parents and carers

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to understand their stories and learn

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and gather that insight and evidence,

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but also we

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we love people that can share that story

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publicly as well.

0:25:08.960,0:25:10.440
If you’d like to get more involved

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in our campaigning work here at sense,

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just drop us an email at [email protected]

0:25:16.480,0:25:17.920
and someone will be in touch

0:25:17.920,0:25:18.760
to talk to you about that.

0:25:18.760,0:25:21.480
So thank you for that.

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Okay.

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That brings us to the end.

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Let’s have a look at the one question

0:25:24.480,0:25:25.600
that is in there.

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It’s if you have a child

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who is in the process of EHCP,

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will they be affected by these changes?

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So, Harriet lets come to you to check on that one.

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Thank you.

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[Harriet] Thanks, Jack.

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No, they won’t be.

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So these changes

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don’t come into force until 2029.

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But we know it feels really confusing

0:25:46.840,0:25:48.160
at the moment and unfair,

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but no council should be changing

0:25:50.560,0:25:51.480
any of their policies

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around this at the moment.

0:25:52.440,0:25:53.960
So if anyone says anything different,

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they’re wrong.

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But, so keep going.

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[Jack] Thanks, Harriet.

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Okay.

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If there’s no further questions,

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that does bring us to the end.

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So a huge thanks, firstly to the

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the team here at Sense

0:26:09.360,0:26:10.400
and those behind the scenes

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that have made this, this happen today.

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And thank you to everyone

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that has joined us.

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We hope to stay in touch.

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But for now, we wish you well.

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Thank you for joining.

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Have a great day. Thank you.